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09-09-2003, 06:13 PM
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An idea on applying wax, need comments
Well, now I am hooked on waxing this car, funny after one year of having it.
We have a member in our club that has a Pearl White 300ZX and it looks unbelieveable, the paint looks like you could dive in see pic below, not bad for a 13 year old car.
So I asked him his method, he uses the Griot's Garage Detailing System but what I found interesting was his application method.
He applies 3 coats of wax without removing any of them until after the 3 coat and then uses a buffer, because by hand it is impossible to remove.
Any thoughts on how that would improve the look over doing one coat at a time?
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90 300ZX TT 315 RWHP / Eibach Springs/ST Swaybars/Carbing Strut Bars/JWT Intake/Down Pipes/Japtrix Test Pipes & catback/350Z RAYS
1971 240Z Stock in restoration
South Florida Z Car Club
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09-09-2003, 06:15 PM
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Oops forgot picture
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03 350Z 554 RWHP Limitless Performance
90 300ZX TT 315 RWHP / Eibach Springs/ST Swaybars/Carbing Strut Bars/JWT Intake/Down Pipes/Japtrix Test Pipes & catback/350Z RAYS
1971 240Z Stock in restoration
South Florida Z Car Club
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09-09-2003, 09:40 PM
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I don't know. It seems like you'd be just smearing an already dried layer of wax onto the paint when you apply the next layer.
Is the stuff he uses truely "wax" or is it a polymer sealant like Zaino? How long does he let it dry until he puts the next layer?
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09-09-2003, 10:17 PM
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I can't see how applying coats-over-coats before removing would benefit. I'd think you would just end up with one very thick application of wax, hence the need to use a buffer. If usinghis method applied 3 actual 'layers' of wax, then in my opinion you are just removing the top 2 to get to the bottom one.
His car does look awesome, but I think it is probably more related to his obvious desire to keep a good coat of wax on it, then his 3 coats per application process.
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09-09-2003, 10:48 PM
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Both your comments confirmed what I was thinking, it seems like a waste of wax.
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03 350Z 554 RWHP Limitless Performance
90 300ZX TT 315 RWHP / Eibach Springs/ST Swaybars/Carbing Strut Bars/JWT Intake/Down Pipes/Japtrix Test Pipes & catback/350Z RAYS
1971 240Z Stock in restoration
South Florida Z Car Club
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09-09-2003, 11:10 PM
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And since you are now a Zaino user, we all can apply multiple layers of Z2 and/or Z5, content with our belief that each layer is actually improving upon the previous.
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Jeff - 2003 Nissan 350Z Silverstone
Ordered: 3/25/2002, Delivered: 10/18/2002
Nismo LMGT4
Nismo Side Skirts / Front Lip
Stilen Spoiler / Rear Valance
Hawk HPS Brake Pads
Car PC with Touchscreen
Zaino x 2,461,882 (Some people count applications, I count hand movements)
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09-09-2003, 11:37 PM
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I have reverted to the early days of not wanting to get the car dirty or drive it out in the rain or on unnecessary trips, my daily driver is back in action, I am already thinking of when I can put another few coats on
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03 350Z 554 RWHP Limitless Performance
90 300ZX TT 315 RWHP / Eibach Springs/ST Swaybars/Carbing Strut Bars/JWT Intake/Down Pipes/Japtrix Test Pipes & catback/350Z RAYS
1971 240Z Stock in restoration
South Florida Z Car Club
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09-10-2003, 04:15 PM
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Griots to my memory only has paste and liquid waxes.. no polymers. He's probablly using the liquid wax and just getting a real thick coat by doing it this way.
I don't put merit in his method.. but like another guy said.. keeping the car protected at all times goes a long long long way to longevity of the finish.
Waxes give great deep wet looks (some more then others based on how many oils they have in them, etc), but durability (and ease of application) will still haunt them.
I still think my car looked best with Blitz wax, but it took more effort to get the car clean between steps using polish+wax.
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10-08-2003, 07:52 PM
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The reason for the three coats at one time is so that each layer has a chance to set into the paint. Do not ever attempt to do that when its a hot day, do it on a mild day in the shade.
I prefrere a liquid wax follwed be a high speed buff then a spray on mist wax by meguiars followed by a buff. Works great on our orange Z.
good luck man!!!!
Last edited by u_got_zed; 10-08-2003 at 07:56 PM.
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